Thread: Don't admit to piracy...

[quote author=Aleksander link=topic=136.msg1825#msg1825 date=1314980686]
Not only this, I think a person that admits to it, should at least receive a one week ban, as it is a major crime in real life.
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For one, in belgium downloading is NOT a crime, only uploading (you cant distribute without permission, using is another matter)
Secondly, one who actually admits it at least is honest, punish people for being honest and you'll get a fucked up US style system where everyone does it but lies about it.
piracy is not something 3rd parties should worry about, it's not our property so it's not our matter, that's they way they want it, so do it, but dont actively.

Allso, copyright isn't criminal law, sow somebody who copy's something broke intellectual property laws, not criminal laws and is NOT a criminal. a criminal is a person who kills for fun, or money. in most countries you cannot go to jail for this, a fine is usually the worst that can happen. in the US of course anybody who go's against big money is considered a criminal, so there you are screwed (land of the free my a**).

if you copy your game, and it doesnt work right with mods, who cares? buy it properly, then we can give support. THAT is something you can and should consider, dont waste your time on pirates, in either way.

Recylcer, if you remove posts mentioning cracks then you might consider not all cracked games are pirated ones.
my own version is steam installed and purchased, but i cracked it none the less, ever since my internet failed and i noticed you cant play the steam version without active internet connection, i cracked it for that simple reason. i do this with a lot of games, buy them properly, then crack them because of the retarded "copyright security" wich only annoys someone who wants to play it, but doesnt really stop piracy.

And last but not least, if you wanna stop piracy you should add value to the product, give ppl a REASON to buy in stead of copy, punishment is clearly not working out so maybe it's time to change tactics.

[quote author=Dantiko link=topic=136.msg1850#msg1850 date=1314992289]
Well, Recycler lives in Germany(according to his profile), Aleksander lives in Australia, I live in Brazil, so I guess we don't got too much to worry about, but no piracy, really, shorun, even if its not a crime, it still makes you an a**, people who can't afford it should download it, not people who will sell it later, that is the real crime, selling something that wasn't you that created.But I don't see any problem if you bought it and cracked it later, or couldn't find it and downloaded it, but really, lock this topic before someone says something that shouldn't have been said and gets banned.
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yes, it makes you an a** if you are able to purchase but chose to pirate, true. not a criminal, just an a**.
and selling it is a illigal, but technicly not a crime. (at least in most of europe that is).

if someone says something that gets them banned, well ye, tough luck. doesnt mean we should lock the topic just because it might happen. that's like europe invading russia because putin might just try something, even tough we cant be sure.
Dont punish the masses for what one a** does, if you do, your an a** yourself.

how should "vaultmp" respond to piracy? if you crack your game that's your call, we support ORIGIONAL PATCHED versions, not illigal cracked ones. if you have a cracked version and issues because of this, tough luck.
basicly vaultmp should not care about the issue, it's not our issue...

In my own situation, a legally purchased key on a cracked .exe, it's my call i cracked it, if i have issues it's my own problem. there is a reason i backed up the origional files, just to be safe. even tough i DID buy my key, considering it's a cracked game any issues related to this crack should *NOT* be supported by vaultmp. we support version X, and it works on that version, if you fail to use that specific version then it's your own problem.

This way, vaultmp does not directly condemn cracking the game, but we do provide a reason to buy it properly, because it only works for sure on a proper version. now we are helping bethesda in their strugle against piracy, because we encourage ppl to use the proper version. give a REASON to people to buy the game, vaultmp might just be one of those reasons.

situation: person with pirate version dl's vaultmp, doesnt work properly but he REALLY wants to play it. odds are that he buys the game properly, knowing that we'll help him set up his game on condition it's a correct version.
If we attack him outright, and condemn him for being an a** then he wont play vaultmp, he wont buy fallout, bethesda doesnt get income, the next fallout is just a tag more unstable due to lack of $$$.
We should encourage ppl to buy the game by offering support on it, and discourage pirated versions by refusing support. this way we have a standard in the client (one version, no exceptions) AND we help bethesda. it's a win-win for all.